Alright, i'm going to break down the mathematics for you Spoiler: :) Since we're talking about simplewashing, we're not going to assume higher than 200 base int. Because reasons. Spoiler: Reasons Anyone with this amount of base-int would benefit severely out of double-washing. With 200 base int, reachable at around level 40 earliest, and decent equips of 100 int, we could calculate approximately a gain of 30 mp per level. Assuming you're planing to wash it out early on. You could this would leave us at about 2.5 washes per level. From the levels 40-70, theres 30 intervals of 2.5 resets each, leaving 75 resets able to be used. If you were to start at level 70, with 5 AP resets, per level. You would have to catch up on those 75 resets you could've washed between 40 and 70, in addition to doing 2.5 ap resets per level there. We do an easy calculation, showing us that out of 5 ap able to use per level AFTER 70, minus 2.5 resets we would use any way, leaves us with 2.5 resets. If the then devide those 75 ap resets, you got ahead by starting washing at 40, it would give an amount of: 75/2.5 == 30 levels. (Amount of ap resets you could have washed in the interval 40-70 divided by the amount of possible ap resets you can use per level (5- the amount you would have used with the 2.5 per level system) ) leaves you with 30 levels to actually catch up on what you would have lost. So in our example, you would have catched up at 70+30 = 100. Level 100, you guessed it! I could have done this way simpler. 5/2 = 2.5 2.5*60 == 5*30 And thats why it does not matter if you start at 40, or 70 NOTE: THIS ONLY AFFECTS SIMPLE-WASHING, and all calculations are based off equal or less than 200 baseint TL DR: Does not matter in most cases of simple washing.
I think all injeenious is trying to say is that, instead of wasting your time doing a bunch of math to make sure everything is going to work down to a single AP Reset, it'd be best to just advise people to wash as soon as they have MP to spare, just to make sure they don't end up having too many washes to do in too few levels. Of course you CAN wash all that AP after 70, but why not get a head start earlier on? And the answer is: Either scenario is totally an option. Yalls just have a different preference.
I would say wash if you can, personally. a little extra survivability is nice. @Gossamer and yes that was what I was saying. @Flaw you didnt need to be rude and treat me like I am idiot. My answer is just as viable as yours.
The maths behind washing is pretty basic, but then again. Who needs math? Lets up some random amounts here, and withdraw some there. We all get results, don't we? Bowmen are almost equal to NL's. Some slightly different ratios on hp gain. But the math would be the same : ^) I'm not treating you as an idiot. I simply stated that i'm disagreeing, and showed the grounds that i was disagreeing on, and why. One does not have to "Make due with reduced damage, longer" as the results for those intervals turned out the be the same. Your answer in not wrong, just faulty.
So are you saying that it is just as important to wash both bowmen and xbowmen as it is a Night Lord? Because if that were the case, I feel like I would be seeing lots of stuff on bowman HP washing. So I am assuming that bowmen have a much greater natural HP gain than thieves, making them less important to wash. Any clarification on this would be nice. It seems that most people are comfortable with just knowing the HP gained per MP lost statistics. I suppose that would be sufficient for someone who wanted to wash a single class, because in such a case, they could look up their class's natural HP gain, and their different skills, and that wouldn't take a huge amount of time. But since I get questions from every class, I should know the specifics of every class. My only option may be doing the research myself, and perhaps I'll throw up a guide on it. But the information you all have given me so far has been very helpful <3
I would say BM hp is about the same as NL. I guess the hype for NL's are just bigger, since their DPS in combination with a BM's SE is greater. For future questions: http://royals.ms/forum/threads/fully-revised-hp-washing-guide.8286/
I'm aware there's a guide rofl. The section labeled "Who should HP wash" is depressingly slim: Who Should HP Wash? The class that benefits most from HP washing is warrior. HP washing is almost essential at higher levels because of the high damage by bosses. Some of these bosses would be impossible for certain jobs unless washed. I mean, I'm really blown away by the lack of information on which classes need to wash, and how many washes they need to apply, in order to not fuck themselves over in the future. It's as if everyone is just supposed to calculate that themselves. With the number of guides on here, I'm surprised there isn't a guide on this. I guess it's time to get to work, Gossamer
Humans don't NEED to breathe. No one NEEDS to do anything. The defintion of NEED is relative. You don't NEED to level. You can stay level 1 and talk to NPCs all day. My definition of NEED, when in reference to MapleStory, is the ability to play all the content you can. And Night Lords NEED to wash to even attempt Horn Tail, right? I could be wrong. I've never done much more than buy fame.
By that logic, then yes. If you attempted it (even with HB), I can imagine it would be a nightmare. But yeah, all the NL's that want to HT and boss effectively have all washed a bit from what I know. It just varies on how much they have. Some people go hardcore 30k hp and some people just wash till like, 6k.
