High-Level Leech Analysis | Duku vs Petri/Skele

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    Hi @Meiyaru,

    Thanks for the reply, might have interpreted your thread wrongly.

    My understanding was that petri spawn pre 65.0 was faster than the current spawn rate now. Might be wrong though given my lack of numbers.

    I'm any case, just wanted to highlight that skele map seems much more contested than petri/duku as a high level leech spot. Or maybe it's just cos this server is full of bishops... ~f12
     
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    On the topic of high level leech, has anyone tested out oblivion 4/5 vs duku (destroyed park 2)?
     
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    I did not record an increase or a significant increase in petris exp rate between before update 65 and after update 65.1. Dukus (destroyed park 2) were about 7-8% better exp than petris for me.

    o4 leech is not as good as o2 because of the map. o2 is about the same as petris from when I last checked before update 65
     
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    @tohmartoh , I think you are correct! Every channel of Skele has been occupied at almost all times.

    Petri spawn rate at Ulu City Center on 65.1 is higher compared to before Patch 64.0 (released 1/22/2020). - Note this is my subjective opinion/conclusion reached by numbers I obtained when leeching pre 65.0 / Post 65.1
    Unfortunately, there is no way to go back and test [spawn rate / EXP per Hr] at Ulu City Center on Patch 64 to see if my calculations are accurate.

    TimK stated in a previous post that he could not comment on the accuracy of my calculations. All in all, I see no way to check my calculations for accuracy.

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    As to why The Dragon Nest Left Behind is the most popular map, I do not know. However, I can speculate. (You can too!)
    To anyone reading, please feel free to leave a comment! Feedback is always welcome!


    Much like in the real world, everything is interconnected in the MapleRoyals economy. Patch 65.0 and 65.1 brought a lot of change at once and it will take time for the economy to adapt and stabilize.

    Duku will take some time to catch on simply because it is new. People tend to stick with what is tried and true (Skele/Petri leech) versus venturing into avenues yet established (Duku).


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    @Geyforlife , Thank you for your Google Sheets labeled "Leeching exp." I used it in the past as a reference when I was first starting out as an Arch Mage. It was very helpful!

    Looking at the sheet now, the experience for Petri's has been 'updated from 65.' Do you still have the old values somewhere? A second point of reference to pre-Patch 65 would be very helpful.

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    @t234 , I have never been inside the Temple of Time on any of my characters, so I cannot say anything about Oblivion 4/5.
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    As always, Thank You for reading!
     
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    The reason Skele is the most popular is kinda obvious, it's simply because there are a lot more Bishops than Archmages and Bishops can only 1 hit skele and not petri/duku (unless they got really strong magic)
    There isn't any other high lvl holy weak map for bishops so all of them go into skele, making the map overcrowded
    As for Duku, it will take some time before it becomes popular. It's kinda like when WS got nerfed and most people still went there for while before SB/Harps beat it in popuarity, or how GS/MP3 were still more popular than the Malaysia maps
     
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    I recorded about 101 kills per minute. Now I get about 97 kills per minute.
     
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    Apologies for not updating the thread - It will happen in the next few days. Stay tuned!
     
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    May need to re-analyze Petris as it seems like there was unannounced spawn nerf with the Server Check.

    Edit: My fault :(
     
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    GMs stated there's a bug.
     
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    While i have nothing to add in regards to these maps for the sake of leeching, I'd like to add from my experiences when it comes to IL mages.

    Back when i farmed cards for my ironman mage, i grinded at dukus, and noticed that the exp wasn't all to bad, maybe a few % lower than petri. But because i was weak, i couldn't 1shot either of them.
    Now that dukus got a spawn buff, training there SPECIFICALLY with IL mage became kinda legit duo to the freeze mechanic protects you from the dukus retaliating with a stun.
    The range to 2shot petris and dukus are kinda close, while the first map you get to 1shot is very far away from it (obv 1, which is a lot closer to petris 1shot than the ma needed for 2shot)
    That will give IL mages more variety when it comes to training :)

    Ok, I'll go hide again so the big boys will return to talk about numbers, economy and efficiency xD.
     
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    Thank u for testing and analyzing these leeching.
    Excuse me , I’m petri seller too, and I want to learn how u rotate petri’s map .
    Can u provide a video about it if u are ok??
    Appreciate ur work again!!
     
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    @LichWiz , Thank you for the insight! I have never trained at Temple of Time before nor have I trained at Duku's before the map changes on Patch 65. Blizzard freezing Duku's so they cannot stun should make them an ideal training spot for Ice/Lightning Arch Mages. If you could find another Arch Mage to train with to cover the entire map, that would be ideal!

    @xDarkomantis , Thank you for informing us on a potential change in Petri. If there was indeed a change to Petri's spawn rate, that would have affected both Skele and Duku demand and price for sure.

    @IssacQY , I hope this video can guide you in the right direction! Let me know if you have any questions. I am always more than happy to help!



    To everyone else that was waiting for an update on this thread, I am sorry. When I originally created this post, I had a lot more free time to play MapleRoyals. I originally had planned to categorize all of my findings into an excel sheet to make the data easier to read and interpret. Alas, that task has proved far more challenging to do correctly. Some of the data I was recording included meso per hour from drops, and dual (and TRIO) mage experience rates.

    However, with current events and the state of the world (at least in the United States), I have decided to take a break from MapleRoyals to focus on other priorities. Thank you for all the support up until now. Stay safe out there!
     
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    HI , I also test duku.
    This is my party.
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    I use two mage leech one dk.

    I have leeched for 1 hrs, and my I/L gets almost 75m per hour, and my dk gets almost 44m per hour.
    I think duku is more better than petri and skele.
    Moreover, I smega to sell duku leech, but no one trust that exp rate and said that was to expensive with 80/160 QQ
     
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    Hello @fizz90841 !

    Thank you for sharing your Duku experience data!

    Here are my thoughts:
    The experience your Dark Knight receives is the potential experience a dual mage solo buyer can expect (2 mages actively leeching + 1 person buying solo dual mage leech). This is assuming that your Dark Knight was receiving Holy Symbol for the entire duration of the leech.

    However, do note that your Dark Knight is a significantly higher level than your typical Duku leech buyer (110+), meaning potential leech buyers will receive slightly less experience compared to your Dark Knight.

    A leech buyer who buys a solo mage split Duku leech can expect [55,061,520 /2] * [1.5] = 41,296,140 EXP/Hr for reference. | (See 'Exp/Hr at Duku' in original post).

    I cannot comment on the 75m EXP/Hr your Arch Mage Received as I lack that data.
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    Being a very new alternative to Skele and Petri, the lack of trust in experience rates cannot be avoided. Skeles and Petris have been around for years while Duku has been present but for a few months. The majority of people tend to stick with tried and true things
     
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    interesting...44m at 151...how much would it be at lvl 121? can u do that 4 me? if around 40m at least..im interested in buy!
     
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    Definitely possible. With my rotation as a level 165, I got a level 124 ~15m exp in multiple 20 min tests, so an expected 45m exp per hour. Maybe I should charge more!
     
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    Possible, i for
    Maybe, im still looking how market would work, wanted to ask...that was leeching 1 account? Or exp shared?
    Bcs skele leech is around 120-130m/hr and gives around 29-32m exp/hr in split leech(never buyed solo sorry) so for a 30%price increment i think at least 20%exp per hour should be increased aswell(38m-40m exp in split leech)taking in consideration that leechers used to do most % in thr first 20 mins bcs theyre fresh than the last 40,not even talking about several hours.
    if u can do over 43m exp/hr at split leech u should definetely should charge more!(and i will pay tbh)...lemme know pls!
     
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    That was the exp received by my test "buyer" in solo. True that 20 min tests don't always translate directly, though I was pretty much doing them back to back so I'm confident in my 45m exp per hour estimate haha. As for split, I haven't tested yet. A lot more factors to consider.
     
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    i will try again without looting item this time, and i will post again
     
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    So i tested Destroyed park II with two of my costumers and this are my currently results I have no idea about EXP ratio, just % based on my 4 years leech experience)

    • First costumer lvl 131 with out exp card: Gain 33m to 35m exp (With HS & 6 persons on the map) (THIS IS NOT INCLUYED IN PARTY OF 3)
    • Second costumer lvl 133: Gain 40m to 44m (With HS, 15% Card effect & 6 persons on the map) ((THIS IS NOT INCLUYED IN PARTY OF 3)
    All this work with 100% telecasting (90% in case of stuck since i'm still try to do a perfect hit on platforms) and a lvl 180 leecher.

    Hope this help ^-^
     
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