New world - is this even being considered?

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    I fully agree with you. Im usually one for the "keep everyone together and dont split the community", but as we saw before the new source royals was growing pretty well, and Im sure it will happen once more once most of the issues are sorted out. Not to mention what you already have that hyping up a new server would bring in many, many people and get word of mouth advertising at the same time. People LOVE hype trains, especially when it comes to private servers (i play many other mmo pservers its all the same there).

    I have a bunch of lvl 90s here Im still new by time-played but I've been around for over a year casually. I really like the ws/cs suggestion nerfs and I wish that and meso gain would've been nerfed a long time ago for the sake of longevity of the server.

    I cant imagine all the fun a new server would bring besides the hype. People struggling to kill crap outside henesys(anywhere) because they cant afford potions, teaming up because they cant leech and they have no meso to train alone. Getting to fight over PQ npcs to get inside PQs and all that nostalgia everyone remembers dearly from the GMS days im sure.

    I do agree with others that this should be something that if considered should be postponed until the new source is mostly issue-free, and we see an influx of people like before.

    It's pretty big how many people dont know a bout private servers yet keep fond memories and the want to play this kind of maple, or any mmo for that matter that have pservers running.
     
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    Holy smokes, I love you. I think it's in our european blood that we want things to be hard to achieve. I'd camp Mushmom with you anyday for that first set of Ilbi brother.

    TL:DR: Screw the godly perfect equipment/weapons, WS/CS and totally destroyed market. 16k NX/day is an absolute joke for tons of nostalgic players like myself <-- comming from 2005 gMS Broa represent baby!

    Let me throw at you a couple reason why I hate the way server is right now:
    1) Multi-client. People farming, shopping on multiple characters, stealing fm spots to the point I gotta open store in cH 2 FM 11.
    2) Way too much free NX thrown at people. From what I remember, people used to kill themselves for GFA 60%. Nobody grind quests anymore because why would you complete level 85 quest for OVERALL INT 30% when you can gacha 35 times in 48H.
    3) Godly items. I realise it takes a long time to get your perfect gear and by no means I want to take credit from people who created them but seeing five hundred lvl 200 players and people smegaing godly item after godly item is super demotivating for someone like me who barely came back to MapleRoyals after 2 year retirement. All my people that I used to play with are gone (shoutout to Boobs guild, please come back guys f4). Why would you farm LPQ 35 times for 1x stats glasses when you can just drop scrolls on racoon masks. Chaos this, chaos that. It got to the point where 3/10 dex,str,luk capes are not existing. Chaos/White scrolls literally became a currency better than mesos now. 150b for single item, are you kidding me? Items are WAY TO EASY to obtain making the nostalgic feeling fade away. That was literally the main reason 90% of us left gMS, wasnt it? It is already a blessing that we have potential to loot +5 average stat items.
    4) Unable to find parties cuz everybody is looking for funded players, people have shittons of money, multiple high level chars. I can only imagine when HT comes back first question will be (att range? washed? got mules?). I literally can't even get krexel ring on my bishop, cuz everybody have HS mules. Duo zak for profits, really bruh? This shit feels like post BigBang. Looking to grind newties/skeles? Good luck with that. You will find nothing but leechers hanging on the rope.
    5) Rates. Exp is okay, I think majority will agree on that. Meso? Could be nerfed a bit. Loot is definetely too broken. Filling entire equips inventory within 40 minutes makes me sick. But hey, if its impossible to have diffrent rates on two servers, we will live with it. No big deal.
    6) All you can see in that server is people smega for leech or gachapon congratulations messages.


    Is that really the reality you guys tried to create? Is that the server our beloved STAFF was dreaming of? What are you guys waiting for? New server is a bull's-eye!

    You guys need motivation? Open some kind of FundMe site. I am not rich by any means but I'd totally donate for opportunity to start fresh. Royals is the best server around, it's time to expand!

    BRING BACK THE NOSTALGIC FEELING! LET US START FRESH! FOR BETTER ROYALS!


    I know there are tons of people who feel the same way I do. It's time my camrades. Speak up!
     
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    An efficient way to prevent people from multi-clienting, would be to make it a banable offense.
    I love my mules, but I'd also love to see a fresh world where mules are not allowed.

    About the "hard to find parties, too easy to get gear, lack of nostalgic feel" - It depends on the people you surround yourself with and personal pride. If you are perfectly happy grinding inefficiently, just enjoying the game - there are others doing that too.
    Bossing parties? Find like-minded people who don't discriminate class, gear or level much. They exist.

    Having said all that, I'd love a 2nd world - preferably more hardcore. Death = Losing all your EXP, without the option for charms. Though, I'd prefer the same or slightly higher EXP rate. Make pets simply a cosmetic, without the ability to loot items or heal you.
     
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    Sounds like Reboot to me.
     
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    I've never tried Reboot, but if that's how they have it - good for them. I even love the idea of 'permadeath'. Though I think that would be hard to implement
     
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    I'd be down for a new world. Where vote for NX can't be converted into free mesos by any means (gach, ap resets, tele rocks, etc.), I think thats the root of pretty much every problem this server has IMO. It's far too late and unfair to do anything about either of these problems in the current world.

    Also back down to 1x drop, or maybe even less. It'd be fun to get excited about getting a steely from drakes like back in the old days.
     
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    Nothing beats your own personal accomplishments. You can personally restrict yourself in all the ways suggested.

    My 0.02$, a new world would just divide the playerbase and make somewhat small worlds even smaller.
     
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    Who's gonna pay for this? You?
     
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    Speaking from my own personal opinion. This post does not reflect staff.

    While the idea of a new world is interesting, i don't really think it would solve all the problems the game currently has. The only thing i really think would make a 2nd world fun and unique is 1x exp with lower droprates/gach rates and no godly system. Its because of 4x exp (3.2) that people are able to make so many mules, and have so many 200s. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but some people have expressed that they dont want it that way, which is understandable.
    I dont really get why you complain about perfect items and 200b items, then say items are too easy to obtain. Regardless, i don't see the problem in that what can be considered the best item in the game has a hefty price tag. Such items shouldnt be available to the average lv150 player, obviously. I personally think the gameplay : reward ratio is (atleast in old source) in a pretty good spot. People can get strong, but only through hard work and dedication. Theres lots if mediocre gear around for more average players.
    As for the party thing, at least i have never had any problems finding boss parties, even though my damage range is significantly lower than most of my friends'. Chances are that at any given time, there are plenty of people at each level looking for other players with similar levels and damage anyway. Theres also classes like bishop where your skill playing the character matters more than your raw damage. I won't really comment on PQs as i never really did those, but if anything i doubt splitting the playerbase would increase pq activity.
    The too much nx thing i dont think theres really a solution to, unless we go the custom route, but then we would be moving away from the old game that we are trying to recreate. V62/83 maplestory has alot of issues and not so great game mecanics, but thats kinda what makes it maplestory. Everyone has their own views on this ofcourse, but atleast i prefer to keep things mostly like they were in old gms for the most authentic experience.

    It feels like theres always gonna be people asking for a new world or a wipe for a chance to experience a fresh game. I can somewhat sorta understand that, but i much rather prefer to just work on one character/set of gear instead of constantly going to new servers for a fresh experience and/or a shot at #1. In the end i think its much better to just stay in one place, regardless if there are super strong players flashing their gear over smegas. A server is not gonna stay fresh forever, so a wipe or a new world seems like a pretty bad idea to me, unless something fundemental like the rates were changed, and like i said earlier, most custom changes would just be wierd and change the game too much, imo.
    Just my thoughts on the topic.
     
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    I see no point in creating more worlds. My personal opinion on the matter is that seeing high levels and perfect gear actually motivates me to get there. I'm competitive by nature and I want to strive to be on top. It doesn't matter if the world is mature and the players are all high level, or if everyone starts over. In a game like maplestory you're able to play and experience the game however you want. If you don't want to buy items for massive amounts of mesos, do what I do and refuse to buy already made items. If I wear something, I'll scroll it myself and farm it myself. The challenge is whatever you choose to make it. Adding more worlds will seemingly just fragment the community and will end up being the same as the current world eventually.
     
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    I cast Resurrection on this topic.

    Now that New Source is far behind us and we are no longer a server with a mere 500-750 active players but a robust 2k average, a 2nd world would be kind of neat.
     
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    you high bro?
    new server will just divide playerbase
     
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    Personally I hope to have a new world that is somewhat more challenging, perhaps with half the rates or something. This is somewhat proven by the now-defunct OMS that there are actually many players who want to play in the original rate.
     
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    It would be interesting if this new world had fixes to problems that plague the server at the moment, but are too late to change, like washing, the effectiveness of leeching, meso value, multiclienting, etc etc. And maybe even 1/1/1 rates like kai suggested.
    But im still unsure if its a good idea to split the playerbase. The numbers of players lately are mostly attributed to the global pandemic, once it dies down, and people will return to their lives, I won't be surprised to see active users drop to 1500~.
    I tend to play multiple mains at once, so playing 2 worlds at once is not a big deal for me. But many players prefer to have 1 main and put all their time to it, so in a case of 2 worlds, it will be choosing one or the other.
     
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    i would love that to be honest.
     
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    Being honest, i think that with those exacts caracteristics. 1/1/1 no muling. no hp washing. No leeching....wouldnt be that bad, no bcs i would like it, bcs is just exactly waht ppl have been complaining about royals for a while...u would like to see how long it last..or maybe it has succes idk...osm died for some reason is t it?
     
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    Yes i am. Our playerbase is quite large. I could see us handling a split. It was discussed even when we were 1/3 the size we are currently.

    Im of the opinion that if multi clienting were disabled, and kept the global item drop rate nerf they put in a bit back and we were real 2x drop and not 4x or w/e were for ages we could sustain 3/2/2 rates and things would feel way cleaner than they do now. Just my opinion tho.
     

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